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romney did -- governor romney was terrific last night. he did all the things he has to do to get back in this race, and i am also mystified at the president's strategy. you know, chris, i'm a good sports fan. in fact, i even do sports tv and i write -- >> i know you do. >> and there's a great sports analogy. when you play the perfect defense when you have a lead, when you try to sit on the ball in basketball when you have got a lead, when you play conservative, what often happens is you lose the lead. and i can't for the life of me believe that that's what they did, but that's the only explanation. they told the president, don't be confrontational. they told the president, be above it all, act presidential. but the one thing that gets me when i was running for re-election as mayor and when i was running for re-election as governor and even d.a., i had a passion for what we'd accomplished. i had a passion to explain where we didn't ak plir something, why we didn't, what the road blocks were, and he could have done that without being aggres
romney did -- governor romney was terrific last night. he did all the things he has to do to get back in this race, and i am also mystified at the president's strategy. you know, chris, i'm a good sports fan. in fact, i even do sports tv and i write -- >> i know you do. >> and there's a great sports analogy. when you play the perfect defense when you have a lead, when you try to sit on the ball in basketball when you have got a lead, when you play conservative, what often happens is...
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and there was more. >> i believe that on the night of the debate, mitt romney and barack obama switched bodies. perhaps. and this is just a theory, perhaps they were exchanging pleasantries backstage and mitt romney said, man, it's not easy raising five boys and barack said you should try raising two girls and they laughed laughed same time they said, what i'd like to switch places and just like that. >> funny stuff, we love a good joke, of course. mitt romney, well, he tried to get away with the actual debate. it wasn't too funny. and i said it would cause him problems. >> no doubt, maitt romney was a his best tonight but it's not good enough. when you take what he said tonight and compare it to his proposals, to what he has said, to what he's represented, to the ryan plan, it does not match what he said tonight. so how are we going to be impressed with someone that made a very passionate and a very articulate series of lies tonight? there's been so much focus on the president's debate performance but i continue to believe that governor romney did serious damage to his candidacy that n
and there was more. >> i believe that on the night of the debate, mitt romney and barack obama switched bodies. perhaps. and this is just a theory, perhaps they were exchanging pleasantries backstage and mitt romney said, man, it's not easy raising five boys and barack said you should try raising two girls and they laughed laughed same time they said, what i'd like to switch places and just like that. >> funny stuff, we love a good joke, of course. mitt romney, well, he tried to get...
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the romney of last night or the romney of the past two months? >> this has to give him a lift, right? >> yeah, a lift, the confidence that he didn't have before, perhaps. we'll see. >> jim vandehei, thanks so much, jim. we'll talk to you later. >> take care. >>> coming up next, it only took them 162 games, but the oakland a's last night caught up and passed the texas rangers. >> that's unbelievable. moneyball. >> capturing the a.l. west title on the final day of the season. we'll have that and the rest of the playoff picture in sports. >> the red sox almost did that last night. >>> before we get to sports, let's check in with music city, usa, where it's 5:38 in the morning. jon meacham, are you still awake and with us? >> oh, hey. >> good. jon, where's lunch today? if i were you, i'd go to rotier's or loveless, but your call. >> i'm a longtime rotier's fan. the other is ledbetter's. >> don't forget, rotier's has american cheese and crackers as their lead appetizer. >> ritz. that's the difference. that's the difference. think of the markup on that
the romney of last night or the romney of the past two months? >> this has to give him a lift, right? >> yeah, a lift, the confidence that he didn't have before, perhaps. we'll see. >> jim vandehei, thanks so much, jim. we'll talk to you later. >> take care. >>> coming up next, it only took them 162 games, but the oakland a's last night caught up and passed the texas rangers. >> that's unbelievable. moneyball. >> capturing the a.l. west title on the...
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romney's performance last night really what women want? stay with us. >> but the right answer is not to have the federal government take over health care and start mandating to the providers across america telling a patient and a doctor what kind of treatment they can have. >> jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. >>> absent from last night's debate were any issues that related particularly to just over half the voting population. that's women. and mr. romney probably thought better than to mention republicans defunding planned parenthood or mandating transvageal ultrasound probes. yet, if you listened closely, women were mentioned at every turn. >> i was in dayton, ohio, and a woman grabbed my arp and she said, i have been out of work since may. can you help me? yesterday was a rally in denver, and a woman came up to her with a baby in her arms. a woman came to me and she said, look, i can't afford insurance for myself or my son. >> joining us here in new york is my colleague crist yal ball, one of the mosts of "the cycl
romney's performance last night really what women want? stay with us. >> but the right answer is not to have the federal government take over health care and start mandating to the providers across america telling a patient and a doctor what kind of treatment they can have. >> jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. >>> absent from last night's debate were any issues that related particularly to just over half the voting population. that's women. and mr....
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this as mitt romney tries to turn a single night's work into a turning point in the election. we'll discuss it all. >>> when we come back here, we'll huddle around the water cooler to watch stephen colbert celebrate mitt romney's debate win with a big old studio rave. "way too early" coming right back. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. >>> we told you the top of the show that the fight over tax plans has become a central issue in the presidential campaign in part because of the looming fiscal cliff that faces the country at the end of this year. that includes an expiration of the bush era tax cuts. congress is expected to delay voting on some of the fiscal issues until 2013, leaving whomever is elected on november 6th to deal with the problem. according to the tax policy center, if no changes are made to the budget to alleviate the fiscal cliff measures, taxe
this as mitt romney tries to turn a single night's work into a turning point in the election. we'll discuss it all. >>> when we come back here, we'll huddle around the water cooler to watch stephen colbert celebrate mitt romney's debate win with a big old studio rave. "way too early" coming right back. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring...
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i mean, look, chris, last night if mitt romney was talking, he was lying. he lied about his tax plan that cost $5 trillion. his campaign has never disputed that his tax plan costs $5 trillion until last night. he lied about medicare and what his plan will do. >> we are going to get into some of those specifics, so here's -- >> here's my point, chris. i don't believe that style will win out over substance in the long run. one reason mitt romney -- >> let me ask the same question to shawn. shawn, style versus substance? >> right. i think last night was a clear choice. and on style and on substance or any other measure that you want to judge it, mitt romney laid out a clear plan for this country and did it in a way that resonated with most americans. i think on the other hand it was not a question of style that the president lacked, it was a lacking of policies and a record over the last four years that he was able to pivot to. and i think the problem is that at some point in the middle of the debate last night the president finally realized, wait, i have actu
i mean, look, chris, last night if mitt romney was talking, he was lying. he lied about his tax plan that cost $5 trillion. his campaign has never disputed that his tax plan costs $5 trillion until last night. he lied about medicare and what his plan will do. >> we are going to get into some of those specifics, so here's -- >> here's my point, chris. i don't believe that style will win out over substance in the long run. one reason mitt romney -- >> let me ask the same...
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>> last night romney who spent long hours preparing for tomorrow's debate said the stakes are greater than simply crowning a winner of the debate. >> people want to know who's going to win? who's going to score the punches and who's going to make the biggest difference and the arguments they make, and there's going to be all the scoring of winning and losing. you know, in my view, it's not so much winning and losing or even the people themselves, the president and myself. it's about something bigger than that. these debates are an opportunity for each of us to describe the pathway forward for america that we would choose. >> the president meanwhile spent most of the day yesterday preparing for the debate. at his nevada campaign headquarters. taking a break to deliver pizza to one of the local campaign offices. he then started working the phones to thank volunteers. >> that was very nice, you know. you know, although basically they're keeping me indoors all the time. it's a drag. they're making me do my homework. >> also in henderson, nevada, last night, just eight miles away from wher
>> last night romney who spent long hours preparing for tomorrow's debate said the stakes are greater than simply crowning a winner of the debate. >> people want to know who's going to win? who's going to score the punches and who's going to make the biggest difference and the arguments they make, and there's going to be all the scoring of winning and losing. you know, in my view, it's not so much winning and losing or even the people themselves, the president and myself. it's about...
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for your him it had to begin wednesday night in denver. romney had just a rough three weeks. he's had a rough three months. you could argue that romney hasn't, quote, won a month in this campaign since may or june. a trailing campaign has just a handful of opportunities to fundamentally change the trajectory of a race. it's losing. barring an october surprise, the three debates that kick off wednesday night are romney's last chance. the president rallied supporters sunday night kicking off his eighth trip to nevada this year before 00 kwering down for two full days for debate prep at a lakeside resort in suburban las vegas. >> you may have heard that in a few days my opponent in this election and i are going to have a debate. i know folks in the media are speculating already on who's going to have the best zingers. >> you are. >> i don't know about that. >> both campaigns from the candidates on down have been frantically spinning to lower expectations for wednesday night. >> governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> president obama is a very experienced speaker,
for your him it had to begin wednesday night in denver. romney had just a rough three weeks. he's had a rough three months. you could argue that romney hasn't, quote, won a month in this campaign since may or june. a trailing campaign has just a handful of opportunities to fundamentally change the trajectory of a race. it's losing. barring an october surprise, the three debates that kick off wednesday night are romney's last chance. the president rallied supporters sunday night kicking off his...
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brooks wrote an opening statement for romney to deliver tomorrow night. it's mostly fantasy, but it's essentially, tamron, romney say, look, i'm not the idea log i've been running as. i needed to do this to get this far in the process. i think he's the massachusetts mitt and not the inkarn nation that sought the presidency. i'm surprised by the timing. i'm not surprised by the interviews you make reference to. i'm surprised it took that long to get there. the troops don't need more red meat. wild horses could not keep them away from voting against barack obama. he didn't spend enough time in the middle. >> let's bring chris in. he points out some of the vulnerabilities for the president during the debate tomorrow. they talk about the two-minute active ad where he references 100,000 new math and science teachers as well as additional manufacturing jobs in this country. they point out during his second term, how do you break the fever or the part zan fever in washington. many democrats dismiss saying mitch mcconnell and others said they would never work wit
brooks wrote an opening statement for romney to deliver tomorrow night. it's mostly fantasy, but it's essentially, tamron, romney say, look, i'm not the idea log i've been running as. i needed to do this to get this far in the process. i think he's the massachusetts mitt and not the inkarn nation that sought the presidency. i'm surprised by the timing. i'm not surprised by the interviews you make reference to. i'm surprised it took that long to get there. the troops don't need more red meat....
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the first debate between barack obama and mitt romney is tomorrow night. and the campaigns are doing whatever they can to get ready. actually i heard that the obama campaign is a little worried because during his flight to nevada on sunday the president apparently watched four hours of football instead of studying. although it did mark the first time all year obama's seen something get passed. very interesting. >> tonight jimmy welcomes funny man martin short, actor logan and a musical guest. that's at 12:35, 11:35 central time on your local nbc station. >>> tmz is reporting a trouble on the set of "american idol." we knew this was coming, right? >> is it set up, though? is it real. >> we shall see. new judge nikcki minaj threatend to knock out mariah carey over a disagreement on a contestant. she said she's not going to put up with her highness. we cleaned that up for tv. >>> the sing he's of the best-selling duet in pop music history, "you're the one that i want" will be reuniting. they have a holiday album coming out. proceeds go to charity. >>> liam ne
the first debate between barack obama and mitt romney is tomorrow night. and the campaigns are doing whatever they can to get ready. actually i heard that the obama campaign is a little worried because during his flight to nevada on sunday the president apparently watched four hours of football instead of studying. although it did mark the first time all year obama's seen something get passed. very interesting. >> tonight jimmy welcomes funny man martin short, actor logan and a musical...
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sort of retroactively rebutting some of the points romney brought up on wednesday night. points he probably would have liked to have made wednesday night, but he's rolling them out now. one of those points taking issue with romney's claim that he would slash the deficit by trimming funding to public television, including big bird. of course, that's become a big laugh line now. president obama saying elmo better watch out. he also had a new line of attack today. he brought up the fact that mitt romney had essentially said his health care plan would include funding pre-existing conditions. that's a claim that the romney campaign has walked back. today president obama said that mitt romney was fact checked by his own campaign, so we're seeing a feistier more aggressive president obama certainly than we saw on wednesday night. >> and the president's advisers, kristin, say that they will likely make some adjustments before the next debate. is it fair to assume that the president may become slightly more aggressive at the next one? >> reporter: i think that it's a fairly safe a
sort of retroactively rebutting some of the points romney brought up on wednesday night. points he probably would have liked to have made wednesday night, but he's rolling them out now. one of those points taking issue with romney's claim that he would slash the deficit by trimming funding to public television, including big bird. of course, that's become a big laugh line now. president obama saying elmo better watch out. he also had a new line of attack today. he brought up the fact that mitt...
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he is not. >> reporter: building on a momentum of wednesday night's debate, romney's trying to reverse his stance in battlegrounds like ohio where he's fallen behind. >> china has passed us in manufacturing. >> reporter: the president argues republicans are offering nothing new. >> it's not plan for our economy. it's not a plan to strengthen the middle class. it is not change. it is a relapse. we're not going to do it. >> reporter: the latest jobs report, cold, hard facts, certain to be the subject of heated debate. economists expected the economy added a less than stellar 115,000 jobs last month. the next jobs report comes out just four days before the election. >> will be an important one. all right, brian. thanks. >>> now here's your first look at some of the other news going on around america today. we're going to begin in new jersey with one family's dramatic escape from a fast-moving fire. the surveillance camera was rolling when a mother and her five kids jumped from their third-floor apartment. luckily there was a few good samaritan there is. they helped soften their landings.
he is not. >> reporter: building on a momentum of wednesday night's debate, romney's trying to reverse his stance in battlegrounds like ohio where he's fallen behind. >> china has passed us in manufacturing. >> reporter: the president argues republicans are offering nothing new. >> it's not plan for our economy. it's not a plan to strengthen the middle class. it is not change. it is a relapse. we're not going to do it. >> reporter: the latest jobs report, cold,...
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he accused mitt romney of not being the real mitt romney on wednesday night during that debate saying he appeared to be more moderate, walked back some of his initial positions. mr. obama said his health care plan would cover pre-existing condition, that's a claim that the campaign walked about. today mr. obama said romney had been fact-checked by his own campaign. took a slight at that. trying to rally support in ohio where early voting has already started. this is a key battleground state, tamron. >> thank you, kristen. more on the breaking news. the new jobs numbers. in a statement john boehner said while there's positive news in today's report, job creation is far too slow and the unemployment rate is far too high. senate majority leader harry reid said with unemployment dropping below 8% to the lowest level in four years, our economy is on the right track. joining me now is "newsweek" columnist zachary caribel. we have one more jobs report left and let's move aahead and not talk about the ground game regarding the numbers we've seen. let's talk about the numbers we haven't seen c
he accused mitt romney of not being the real mitt romney on wednesday night during that debate saying he appeared to be more moderate, walked back some of his initial positions. mr. obama said his health care plan would cover pre-existing condition, that's a claim that the campaign walked about. today mr. obama said romney had been fact-checked by his own campaign. took a slight at that. trying to rally support in ohio where early voting has already started. this is a key battleground state,...
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. >>> and after holding a mock debate in boston, mitt romney will head for a rally monday night in denver, the site of the debate. >>> the mayor of los angeles is calling the construction project dubbed carmageddon ii a success. the section of the 405 freeway will be re-opened for monday morning rush hour. i'm veronica day e la cruz. now back to "lockup." >>> due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. >>> keeping more than 9,000 inmates fed is a herculean task for the food services staff at the maricopa county jail in phoenix. >> we have close to 100 inmates working each day. some days of the week we may have as little as 60, 70 inmates. there is never an off day here. we work 7 days a week, 365 days a year. >> each inmate is fed twice daily on a budget that the jail claims is less than 90 cents a day. the inmates say it tastes that way. >> like the dog food we get, straight out of a can. kibbles and bits and beefy bits. and some sliced carrots and call it like a gourmet meal. >> i'm a big fan of spinach. big fan of spinach, but i'm pretty sure that that came out of a law
. >>> and after holding a mock debate in boston, mitt romney will head for a rally monday night in denver, the site of the debate. >>> the mayor of los angeles is calling the construction project dubbed carmageddon ii a success. the section of the 405 freeway will be re-opened for monday morning rush hour. i'm veronica day e la cruz. now back to "lockup." >>> due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. >>> keeping more than 9,000...
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presidential debate in denver wednesday night. romney is holding a rally in the mile-high city today, while the president gears up in nevada. nbc's tracie potts joins us from washington with the latest. >> reporter: good morning, everyone. we get an interesting perspective on this from john mccain, he's debated both the president and mitt romney. he says we will see two very strong well-prepared debaters and he predicts few surprises. the president's behind closed doors in nevada for the next two days preparing to face mitt romney in denver wednesday. >> he's a good debater. i'm just okay. but what i'm most concerned about is having a serious discussion about what we need to do to keep the country growing. >> reporter: both sides are downplaying expectations. a senior aide to the president says romney will be prepared, disciplined and aggressive. romney's debate partner calls the president a tough debater. >> barack obama is going to be formidable, and i think it will be a good debate, but i certainly would not underestimate what
presidential debate in denver wednesday night. romney is holding a rally in the mile-high city today, while the president gears up in nevada. nbc's tracie potts joins us from washington with the latest. >> reporter: good morning, everyone. we get an interesting perspective on this from john mccain, he's debated both the president and mitt romney. he says we will see two very strong well-prepared debaters and he predicts few surprises. the president's behind closed doors in nevada for the...
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>> i think it was a great night for mitt romney. i think the doom and gloom that's been hanging over the romney campaign, republicans in general has lifted tonight. i think that the democratic advance which began literally a month ago when clint eastwood walked out on stage ended tonight. i think the race is going to tighten. i think mitt romney was in command of this from the beginning. i'm not sure that he lost an exchange during the entire debate. a startling performance in my view and just the context of how good mitt romney was tonight. >> i thought that in terms of individual exchanges i think what may have been most notable, there wasn't i think a single direct attack against mitt romney from president obama. however, they substantively dealt with policy matters. >> he was looking down tonight. he was passive. he was abstract in his answers. mitt romney was talking about real people, giving real examples. i thought he was clear. he was concise. i think the president was muddled tonight. i just wonder, we talked about this ear
>> i think it was a great night for mitt romney. i think the doom and gloom that's been hanging over the romney campaign, republicans in general has lifted tonight. i think that the democratic advance which began literally a month ago when clint eastwood walked out on stage ended tonight. i think the race is going to tighten. i think mitt romney was in command of this from the beginning. i'm not sure that he lost an exchange during the entire debate. a startling performance in my view and...
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so, we think that that continuation of a huge move by romney is not in the data. so, overall, we would say it's looking like the race is, among registered voters, still tilting slightly in obama's direction. among likely voters, which we'll begin reporting out today, we think that romney will probably have an even orvery, very slight lead. >> so, based on what you're looking at, and i know you're not reporting the full numbers until 1:00, but based on the raw data you're looking at, has the president regained what he lost after the debate? is he just closing some of what he lost? how would you characterize it? >> well, that's a good question. i would say that obama has gained back some of what he has lost but has not gained back to where he was prior to the debate when he was ahead by five points among registered voters. i would say since that it looks like he's gained some of it back but not all of it. so, we will see. every day we get new data in. but certainly, i don't think that romney has established and then been able to keep the very strong position that he
so, we think that that continuation of a huge move by romney is not in the data. so, overall, we would say it's looking like the race is, among registered voters, still tilting slightly in obama's direction. among likely voters, which we'll begin reporting out today, we think that romney will probably have an even orvery, very slight lead. >> so, based on what you're looking at, and i know you're not reporting the full numbers until 1:00, but based on the raw data you're looking at, has...
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same question comes up wednesday night, can romney dodgeball it? can he say i'm not telling you how i'm going to do the major thing i promised to do, get the economy going through a tax cut, but i'm not going to tell you how i'm going to do it. can he get away with it with even the -- >> i hope not. i think this is a moment for jim lehrer to be very tough, respectful tough, and for president obama to come back at him and to say, look, i'm happy to see -- your running mate said he didn't have enough time on sunday. that's too bad. that's terrible, in fact. i'm willing to cede, governor romney -- >> could jim lehrer get away with simply saying, i have a little liberty here, a little leeway, i will give you all the time it takes. tell us now what tax breaks you're going to get rid of. >> tell us what tax breaks you're going to get rid of and also please, governor romney, you were very upset about the 47% of americans who pay no taxes. well, they include seniors, the military, and they include the working poor. please tell me, governor romney, exactly
same question comes up wednesday night, can romney dodgeball it? can he say i'm not telling you how i'm going to do the major thing i promised to do, get the economy going through a tax cut, but i'm not going to tell you how i'm going to do it. can he get away with it with even the -- >> i hope not. i think this is a moment for jim lehrer to be very tough, respectful tough, and for president obama to come back at him and to say, look, i'm happy to see -- your running mate said he didn't...
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we will no doubt see evidence of that bromance unfold thursday night. on the other hand, mitt romney's put paul ryan in the position where he has to defend statements like this. >> . >> so it feels like passionate romance and a marriage of convenience here between these two. is that the key thing that a vp has to be is basically champion for his principal? is that what people are looking for in the vp debate? >> unless the vp think they don't have much of a shot. in which case he has to think ahead to the next election cycle. it's clear to me what's what paul ryan is doing. so he should be. >> the interesting thing here, way back when they put ryan on the ticket, i thought i understood why. i thought the calculation was romney looked and said all summer long, i've been behind. this isn't budging. i need something dramatic here. i i'm going to run on the paul ryan plan. maybe it's translated as courageous and bold. they put ryan on the ticket and panicked and said wait a minute. we can't run of these ideas. they've tried to turn paul ryan into a generic
we will no doubt see evidence of that bromance unfold thursday night. on the other hand, mitt romney's put paul ryan in the position where he has to defend statements like this. >> . >> so it feels like passionate romance and a marriage of convenience here between these two. is that the key thing that a vp has to be is basically champion for his principal? is that what people are looking for in the vp debate? >> unless the vp think they don't have much of a shot. in which case...
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hammered governor romney on his shape shifting. >> a few nights ago, suddenly a guy pretending to be mitt romney stood on a stage next to me and said he's changing his plan. he's just going to pretend it doesn't exist. what $5 trillion tax cut? what was being presented wasn't leadership. that's salesmanship. >> when the storm clouds clear, which romney will voters remember? the bone dry severe conservative or the misty massachusetts moderate? the paradox of the mittens, a multi volume extravaganza continues. john heilemann, what do we make, what do you specifically make, of this politico inside dope that says ann and tagg romney have been instrumental in this recalibrated mitt romney? >> i never want to take exception that anybody mike allen and jim vandehei write but maybe there's a straining to find a more biz zanty explanation than is necessarily the case. to question that ann romney was unhawpe with what was happening to her husband as any reasonable wife would be, given the way he was being portrayed and allowing people to portray himself. there's, you know, losing campaign, whi
hammered governor romney on his shape shifting. >> a few nights ago, suddenly a guy pretending to be mitt romney stood on a stage next to me and said he's changing his plan. he's just going to pretend it doesn't exist. what $5 trillion tax cut? what was being presented wasn't leadership. that's salesmanship. >> when the storm clouds clear, which romney will voters remember? the bone dry severe conservative or the misty massachusetts moderate? the paradox of the mittens, a multi...
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gene robinson, you wrote "obama's off night gives romney an opening." and i do think that joe biden has been out there and is used to getting beat up. and i think will do very well in the debate along with paul ryan. but your column, talking about obama's off night. can you help us out here? we're trying to figure out what happened to president obama. where was he? >> where was he? that's the question. it was really, you know, you kind of watched the thing unfold and just wondered when it was -- when the debate was going to start, basically, because -- and when the president was going to, you know, become president obama again. all the stuff you guys said in the last segment is probably right about that performance. and it's not that unusual, if you look historically for an incumbent president to have a rough time out of the blocks on the debates. and they tend not to do very well in the first one. that was certainly true this year more than most years, i think. you know, look. on the plane coming back, i was with one of the president's most senior advi
gene robinson, you wrote "obama's off night gives romney an opening." and i do think that joe biden has been out there and is used to getting beat up. and i think will do very well in the debate along with paul ryan. but your column, talking about obama's off night. can you help us out here? we're trying to figure out what happened to president obama. where was he? >> where was he? that's the question. it was really, you know, you kind of watched the thing unfold and just...
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instead to prep for the first of their three debates tomorrow night in denver. republicans are hoping it will be a game changer for their nominee. who right now trails the president in every battleground state. nbc's brian mooar joins us from washington with all the details. brian, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, lynn. for both campaigns, this first debate brings both challenge and opportunity. as denver gets ready for tomorrow night's first presidential debate, so are the candidates. >> it will be a conversation with the american people that will span almost an entire month. we'll get to describe our respective views. >> reporter: romney is hoping to pick up a few votes with an endorsement from football great john elway. president obama is taking the personal approach to nail down support. >> this is barack obama. >> reporter: and like romney, the president sees this debate as a chance to talk to america. >> it's a choice between two different paths for this country. it's a choice between two fundamentally different visions for our nation. >> reporter:
instead to prep for the first of their three debates tomorrow night in denver. republicans are hoping it will be a game changer for their nominee. who right now trails the president in every battleground state. nbc's brian mooar joins us from washington with all the details. brian, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, lynn. for both campaigns, this first debate brings both challenge and opportunity. as denver gets ready for tomorrow night's first presidential debate, so are the...
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take a listen. >> now, my opponent is doing a little tap dance at the debate the other night. trying to wriggle out of stuff he's been saying for a year. doing like a -- it was like "dancing with the stars." more maybe it was "extreme makeover." debate edition. >> robert, is that effective? >> i'm not so sure it's effective, chris. a biggest appeal factor is does seem presidential and likable like perry said but getting too personal in the attacks and petty sounding in the rhetoric, he risks maybe alienating independent voters that like the presidential appeal and like his likability and what you see mitt romney maybe doing is going in the debate at the record and not the president's style. >> let's bring in the chairman of the rnc. welcome back. >> hey, thank you for having me. >> you were busy yesterday but maybe you saw some of the guys on the other side on the sunday shows. let's play for you a couple of clips of robert gibbs and david axelr axelrod. here they are. >> mitt romney says anything to get elected and you have to wonder what they say when they're president of th
take a listen. >> now, my opponent is doing a little tap dance at the debate the other night. trying to wriggle out of stuff he's been saying for a year. doing like a -- it was like "dancing with the stars." more maybe it was "extreme makeover." debate edition. >> robert, is that effective? >> i'm not so sure it's effective, chris. a biggest appeal factor is does seem presidential and likable like perry said but getting too personal in the attacks and petty...
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mitt romney and president obama face off in denver tomorrow night. who will bring the rocky mountain highs and lows? and our panel power will weigh in on that. >>> both sides brought the heat last night in boston in the second senate debate between scott brown and elizabeth warren. was there a clear winner? >>> just days away from the election, a judge halted pennsylvania's tough new voter i.d. law. the legal battle is far from over. philly mayor if michael nutter and ed rendell join me live. >>> andrew rosenwach is the fourth generation owner of water tanks. today these tanks are shaped by hand with half century-old tools. he says you don't throw out what works you build upon it. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they help save you up to thousands in out-of-pocket costs
mitt romney and president obama face off in denver tomorrow night. who will bring the rocky mountain highs and lows? and our panel power will weigh in on that. >>> both sides brought the heat last night in boston in the second senate debate between scott brown and elizabeth warren. was there a clear winner? >>> just days away from the election, a judge halted pennsylvania's tough new voter i.d. law. the legal battle is far from over. philly mayor if michael nutter and ed...
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at a san francisco fund-raiser last night, president obama himself once again drew attention to mr. romney's plan to cut government funding for pbs. >> for all you moms and kids out there, you should have confidence that finally somebody is cracking down on big bird. elmo has been seen in a white suburban. he's driving for the border. oscar is hiding out in his trash can. we're cracking down on them. governor romney's plan is to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring the hammer down on sesame street. >> the obama campaign now featuring big bird in a new tv ad out this morning. this is from the obama campaign. >> i'm barack obama, i approve this message. >> bernie madoff, ken lay, dennis kozlowski, criminals, gluttons of greed and the evil genius who towered over them? one man has guts to speak his name. >> big bird. >> big bird. >> it's me, big bird. >> big, yellow, a menace to our economy. mitt romney knows it's not wall street you have to worry about, it's sesame street. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. >> mitt romney, taking on our enemies no matter where
at a san francisco fund-raiser last night, president obama himself once again drew attention to mr. romney's plan to cut government funding for pbs. >> for all you moms and kids out there, you should have confidence that finally somebody is cracking down on big bird. elmo has been seen in a white suburban. he's driving for the border. oscar is hiding out in his trash can. we're cracking down on them. governor romney's plan is to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring the...
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how do you fix that in one night? >> that's what mitt romney has to begin trying to do. this is it for mitt. that was the lead of my piece in "the huffington post," words of one sill belabel. this is it for mitt. >> it rhymes. >> he has to change the conversation, and do what you said, which is express clear, big, convincing, humane and understandable thoughts about he, how he can be the better person to take the economy forward and take the country forward. he said he wanted this to be about the economy. the romney -- the obama people have jammed the radar, romney's radar for six months, ago? now romney has 60 million people out there. he has to look at the camera and say, this is in simple, clear terms is how i'm going to help you and how we're going to fix the economy. >> same question to you. the economy looks better than romney does. that's the problem he faces. >> one of his biggest challenges tonight is to stand on that stage and convince people watching, something north of 60 million people will tune in, that he understands the lives and problems of average ameri
how do you fix that in one night? >> that's what mitt romney has to begin trying to do. this is it for mitt. that was the lead of my piece in "the huffington post," words of one sill belabel. this is it for mitt. >> it rhymes. >> he has to change the conversation, and do what you said, which is express clear, big, convincing, humane and understandable thoughts about he, how he can be the better person to take the economy forward and take the country forward. he said...
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this is the pursuit of perfection. >>> we're talking about wednesday night's debate between mitt romney and president barack obama and the performance of both men respectively. i think my take on the president's performance was it was a combination of strategic choices that they make time and time again to above all else, the hippocratic oath of the barack obama campaign from the first day is first do no harm to the president's likability. >> exactly. >> do no harm. everything is subordinate to that. so any attack he might launch, anything aggressive has to be calculated in relation to the possible down side risk of imperilling the president's personal brand as the adult in the room, as the agreeable one, as the rational one, as the never angry person which has a whole intense racial subtext. the positive/negative feelings towards president obama and mitt romney going into the debate, those are the gains they have consolidated. president 52% likability, 42% negative. and mitt romney was underwater in that respect. so that is a key number for them. that is their watch number. i think tha
this is the pursuit of perfection. >>> we're talking about wednesday night's debate between mitt romney and president barack obama and the performance of both men respectively. i think my take on the president's performance was it was a combination of strategic choices that they make time and time again to above all else, the hippocratic oath of the barack obama campaign from the first day is first do no harm to the president's likability. >> exactly. >> do no harm....
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romney, governor romney, is able to say something like, well, all pre-existing conditions will be covered and then have his guy go out later that night and tell a few people who read the newspapers, oh, it doesn't really cover you unless you're already covered which doesn't mean anything. your thoughts, ron. will television deceive? >> yes, television does deceive. candidates deceive. it's one of the most disturbing aspects of this campaign, particularly if romney were to win. it would set a standard of dishonesty for all campaigns going forward that would be really hard to meet. going into the next debate, i have been listening to your discussions thus far today, and i agree with you, you don't want obama to relitigate the last debate and i agree he has to attack romney the man. it's not about rearguing the medicare issue as such. it's about revealing the fact that romney has been all over the map on various issues, will say anything on a given day to get through the day, and he has to be unmasked that way. >> well, that's what i would do, michelle. the facts are that romney believes bas
romney, governor romney, is able to say something like, well, all pre-existing conditions will be covered and then have his guy go out later that night and tell a few people who read the newspapers, oh, it doesn't really cover you unless you're already covered which doesn't mean anything. your thoughts, ron. will television deceive? >> yes, television does deceive. candidates deceive. it's one of the most disturbing aspects of this campaign, particularly if romney were to win. it would...
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there are ricks for obama clearly, but i think romney has got to have a huge, huge night, and obama would have to have a terrible night to actually move the needle. i don't think that's likely to happen. let's leave all these expectations game aside. let me pick up on one last point on the ryan thing. ryan saying the 47% was inarticulate, whatever the word was he used, that's the pot calling the kettle black. ryan has probably hurt the ticket much more so than the 47%. if you look at two states, florida and ohio, they were extremely close when ryan was picked as the nominee. now obama has considerable leads. you look at the reason why and seniors have gone from being in the romney camp into the obama camp and almost the entire explanation for that is that they do not like the ryan plan on medicare. so ryan has demonstrably hurt this ticket, turt it very badly in the swing states and particularly with seniors. >> congratulations to paul ryan. karen, julian, michael eric dyson who is off to see jay-z later, thank you all. >>> is the media really biased against mitt or is he simply a flawed
there are ricks for obama clearly, but i think romney has got to have a huge, huge night, and obama would have to have a terrible night to actually move the needle. i don't think that's likely to happen. let's leave all these expectations game aside. let me pick up on one last point on the ryan thing. ryan saying the 47% was inarticulate, whatever the word was he used, that's the pot calling the kettle black. ryan has probably hurt the ticket much more so than the 47%. if you look at two...
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this one is going in romney's direction. it appears if you look at the battleground states, it still favors obama. nothing has fundamentally changed. if things keep move inning this direction and this just isn't a reaction to one very bad night for obama last week, well, then, we talk about something else. it's not clear that's what happened yet. >> don't tell that to andrew sullivan, because he is having a breakdown in "the daily beast" today. he laments what he calls devastating new positill numberd he calls the president too air grant to take a core campaign responsibility too seriously, too arrogant to give his supporters kwwhat they deserve. what do you make of that? >> i think andrew is always interesting and provocative. he makes a good point. it probably overstates it. remember a couple of weeks ago all the rats were abandoning the sinking romney ship. he'd be a great president. he's a lousy candidate. there's nothing we can do. guess what? he's back in the game. he probably wasn't out of the game at the time, and ce
this one is going in romney's direction. it appears if you look at the battleground states, it still favors obama. nothing has fundamentally changed. if things keep move inning this direction and this just isn't a reaction to one very bad night for obama last week, well, then, we talk about something else. it's not clear that's what happened yet. >> don't tell that to andrew sullivan, because he is having a breakdown in "the daily beast" today. he laments what he calls...
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. >> we've expected all along that governor romney will have a good night. he's prepared more than any candidate in history and shown himself to be a very good debater for the years. >> i think for us to raise the expectation he's got to do something spectacular, those things don't happen in debates anymore, there's a spectacular event or gaffe. they're too well rehearsed. >> mitt will be out there and aggressive as all get out. joining me via skype to talk about the strategy, wayne, a professor of political rhetoric in washington university and st. louis the author of "union of words a history of presidential eloquence". thank you for your time. senator mccain says the folks are too rehearsed these days and at the end of the comment he says what do i know, i lost the debate he said in humor, of course. the notion that they're so rehearsed with the answers that there's no chance for any kind of big moment? >> i think that's right, although it's still the case that we learn a good deal from the debates and some unscripted moments, i think, but generally what
. >> we've expected all along that governor romney will have a good night. he's prepared more than any candidate in history and shown himself to be a very good debater for the years. >> i think for us to raise the expectation he's got to do something spectacular, those things don't happen in debates anymore, there's a spectacular event or gaffe. they're too well rehearsed. >> mitt will be out there and aggressive as all get out. joining me via skype to talk about the strategy,...
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the romney campaign distanced itself from the video saying it had no involvement with the release. paul ryan speaking about a moral tipping point in united states, six months before romney's 47% remark. >> before too long we could become a society we were never, ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers, not makers. today 70% of americans get more benefit from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. you could argue that we're already past that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center right 70/0 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe the american idea. only 30%en watt their welfare state. what that tells us is at least half of those people currently in that category are there not of their wish or their will. >> ryan's comment were part of the keynote address at a gala dinner hosted by the american spectator. that was in november 201, ten months ago, well before he was considered to be a vice presidential running mate.
the romney campaign distanced itself from the video saying it had no involvement with the release. paul ryan speaking about a moral tipping point in united states, six months before romney's 47% remark. >> before too long we could become a society we were never, ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers, not makers. today 70% of americans get more benefit from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. you could...
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on wednesday night it might be risky for romney not to take risks, but what can he do? he might add to his policies by embracing, say, breaking up the largest banks, the sound policy that would subvert the -- but not good venues for explaining anything, actually. but especially not new initiatives. and october is a time for summations to the jury, not new submissions of evidence. you agree? >> i agree with that completely. i think the idea of romney going out there and saying let's break up the big banks, i think it would not help him. i think his -- apart from what howard and john have said, i think his challenge is he's got to deal with this 47% problem. he's got to somehow walk back from that and convince people he actually cares about all of america. that's his job as well as humanizing himself. i think the moderator and president obama are going to be desperately trying to get this guy to be specific about what it is he wants to do. not only does he change positions, but right now, he won't say what he wants to do about tax loopholes, and medicare, and if i were th
on wednesday night it might be risky for romney not to take risks, but what can he do? he might add to his policies by embracing, say, breaking up the largest banks, the sound policy that would subvert the -- but not good venues for explaining anything, actually. but especially not new initiatives. and october is a time for summations to the jury, not new submissions of evidence. you agree? >> i agree with that completely. i think the idea of romney going out there and saying let's break...
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by mitt romney would do on wednesday night. that would tighten it in ohio. it would tighten it in north carolina. probably go ahead in north carolina. it would tie it in iowa, probably tie it up in iowa. that's why you can't buy your way out of this mess the romney campaign is in right now, but you can outdebate them. >> more than anything else what seemed to have happened in august was democrats got enthused by their convention more than republicans did. the latest polling shows the enthusiasm gap coming back towards republicans. a git debate could juice that nationally among republicans. >> the people going out to vote is still pretty close. >> they need to turn the page. >> the polls in these swing states, and if i dismissed every other poll but local polls, fox news polls and what the romney people are saying their polls are showing, mitt romney's in trouble. again, if you just look at the locals polls, the fox news polls and the polls that the romney team has internally, mitt romney's in trouble right now. that can all cha
by mitt romney would do on wednesday night. that would tighten it in ohio. it would tighten it in north carolina. probably go ahead in north carolina. it would tie it in iowa, probably tie it up in iowa. that's why you can't buy your way out of this mess the romney campaign is in right now, but you can outdebate them. >> more than anything else what seemed to have happened in august was democrats got enthused by their convention more than republicans did. the latest polling shows the...
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last night denver broncos legend and executive vice president john elway hit mitt romney with a quick toss to the right introducing and endorsing the republican nominee at a colorado campaign event. but before you get too excited, mr. elway doesn't have a great record off the field of play. he was 0 for 2 last time around after contributing to the campaigns of rudy joule annie and then john mccain. republicans have received three times as much as democrats. according to business insiders walter hickey, 11 nfl team owners currently line up behind mitt romney. none more so than new york jets long suffering owner woody johnson, also a campaign finance co-chair. perhaps remarkably, for a man whose team took a fearsome beating at the weekend without scoring a single point in response, mr. johnson reveals his priority is not his team, but team romney. >> well, i think you always have to put country first, so i think it's very, very important that this election come off with mitt romney and ryan as president and vice president. >> now, this may come as cold comfort for those jets fans who sp
last night denver broncos legend and executive vice president john elway hit mitt romney with a quick toss to the right introducing and endorsing the republican nominee at a colorado campaign event. but before you get too excited, mr. elway doesn't have a great record off the field of play. he was 0 for 2 last time around after contributing to the campaigns of rudy joule annie and then john mccain. republicans have received three times as much as democrats. according to business insiders walter...
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he was on handy the night after it. i hope we see whoever is -- that the people who are moderating the next debates think okay, we have that territory. it's been covered. there's a lot of stuff out there that we need to get the candidates on the record on. it's the opportunity that you never have when you are covering a campaign. i would love to have every candidate and on the record of a variety of issues. peter welsh from vermont, lizz thank you for joining us this morning. >>> "the new york times" is confronted over the use of the term illegal immigrant. that's next. with the spark cash card from capital one, sven's home security gets the most rewards of any small business credit card! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! woo-hoo!!! so that's ten security gators, right? put them on my spark card! why settle for less? testing hot tar... great businesses deserve the most rewards! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital
he was on handy the night after it. i hope we see whoever is -- that the people who are moderating the next debates think okay, we have that territory. it's been covered. there's a lot of stuff out there that we need to get the candidates on the record on. it's the opportunity that you never have when you are covering a campaign. i would love to have every candidate and on the record of a variety of issues. peter welsh from vermont, lizz thank you for joining us this morning. >>>...
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just be mitt romney and he'll have a good night. >> we will hear about the 47% from barack obama tonight. he will bring that up. i think mitt romney will bring this up in the debate, something that was spoken yesterday in charlotte, north carolina by our dear friend joe biden. >> the romney/ryan tax plan will raise taxes on middle class families with a child, one or more children, by an aadditional $2,000 a year. all kidding aside with all the boos we can stop that malarkey. this is deadly earnest. how they can justify raising taxes when the middle class has been buried the last four years, how in lord's name can they justify? >> god bless him. >> has anybody told him the middle class has been buried? >> i am being deadly earnest now. how anyone can attempt to bury the vice president is beyond me. >> i got a good laugh out of it. >> you think we might hear the middle class has been buried. >> that is fresh and new and relevant. >> just look at the general mood of the country again which is difficult and the right and wrong track. the wrong track numbers is 53% thinking we are heading in
just be mitt romney and he'll have a good night. >> we will hear about the 47% from barack obama tonight. he will bring that up. i think mitt romney will bring this up in the debate, something that was spoken yesterday in charlotte, north carolina by our dear friend joe biden. >> the romney/ryan tax plan will raise taxes on middle class families with a child, one or more children, by an aadditional $2,000 a year. all kidding aside with all the boos we can stop that malarkey. this is...
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mitt romney became the leader of the republican party the other night. he did it by being rational, saying, okay, i want tax cuts. but i'm not going to pass tax cuts if it increases the deficit. and in massachusetts, i worked with liberals. every morning we got together and we got things done. it's like -- it's not the sort of warfare that many in my party and in the democratic party have glorified over the past 10, 15 years. i thought mitt came temperamentally at least to the middle, and it seems like he's -- i think ross is right. he's the new leader of the republican party. >> he demonstrated leadership on the ticket, not only is his name first on the ticket, but when asked about paul ryan's plan, he indicated that i'm the leader on this ticket, and we're going to follow what i want to do, one. two, you're going to hear leading republicans who have disagreed with him, those in the congress, in the senate who have insisted that no revenue be a part of any long-term spending control bill in the congress. none of them have said a word. as a matter of fac
mitt romney became the leader of the republican party the other night. he did it by being rational, saying, okay, i want tax cuts. but i'm not going to pass tax cuts if it increases the deficit. and in massachusetts, i worked with liberals. every morning we got together and we got things done. it's like -- it's not the sort of warfare that many in my party and in the democratic party have glorified over the past 10, 15 years. i thought mitt came temperamentally at least to the middle, and it...
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just a huge night. what are each of these guys thinking they need to do tonight? >> well, i think obama's the one i'm focused on, the president. because everybody's been talking about, it's romney's big chance, it's romney's opportunity, blah, blah, blah. suppose obama goes on the attack tonight. suppose he surprises everybody and doesn't play defense. he doesn't try to handle his opponent and clinch, that he really goes and tries to put him away. and i think that's the significanti i significanting question. how does romney deal with the fact that he has no spontaneity? no ability to deal with the unexpected? how does he deal with that in the debate for an hour and a half? so will obama go after the guy, not play defense, not finesse the guy, knock him out and end this thing. and will the other guy be able to deal with the unexpected, which perhaps will be obama coming after him, not him coming after obama. >> chris, when you talk about the president potentially going after mitt romney, do you mean in terms of stylistic aggression, or do you means in terms of try
just a huge night. what are each of these guys thinking they need to do tonight? >> well, i think obama's the one i'm focused on, the president. because everybody's been talking about, it's romney's big chance, it's romney's opportunity, blah, blah, blah. suppose obama goes on the attack tonight. suppose he surprises everybody and doesn't play defense. he doesn't try to handle his opponent and clinch, that he really goes and tries to put him away. and i think that's the significanti i...
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with flexpen®... say good night to vial and syringe. ask your doctor about levemir® flexpen. covered by 90% of insurance plans, including medicare. find your co-pay at myflexpen.com. >>> romney stopped at the restaurant in florida yesterday. he was posing for a group photo with the staff when one of the employees decided to help clean him up. he's already creating new jobs. at first he's like, oh, this is nice, then he's like, oh, okay. wait a minute now. and then he uses his hand to...